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2nd Server- Difficult PVE - Full on PVP - Contests!

Discussion in 'ARK: Survival Evolved' started by Daphonic, Jun 26, 2015.

  1. Daphonic

    Daphonic Gentleman Viking Grand Elder Elder

    2nd Server Put on Hold Till we get more players on 1st.
    (Everything is Open for Discussion for now)

    As soon as I get the 2nd Server Built and Linux running. I want to Create a very Hard Difficulty Server, with Full PvP. (No Cry babies)

    Rules
    1. Building
      1. No Structures in or around Caves
      2. No building on the Islands
        1. North East (Dino Island)
        2. South East
    2. Tribe Will be divided up in 7 Main Tribes
      1. Tribes will be, Red, Green, Blue, White, Yellow, Orange, Purple
      2. We will Pick Leaders of Tribes
      3. New players will be placed into Tribes as they come
      4. Groups or Friends who want to play together will be accommodated.
    • Full PvP
      1. Create Walls to Defend your bases!
      2. You kill someone you can Loot them!
    • Server Settings
      1. No Marker
      2. No Cross Hairs
      3. Difficulty Turned up to Max
      4. Gathering set to 2x times the Normal Amount
      5. Taming Will be much Faster 2x Faster
      6. Flying Saddles Taken out
    • Contests
      1. First Team to Kill Broad Mother with Screenshot During Prime Play time.
      2. Best Base via Screen Shots Voted on by the Community
    • Rewards
      1. Special ARK Badge and possible Forum Avatar Border
      2. Raffle Tickets for Community Raffles (This is coming soon)
        1. July Raffle will be 25$ Steam Gift Card
    Nothing is Official Till Server Goes Live, Than Rules will be Set in Stone for this Server.

    Open Discussion On Steam and Reddit
    http://steamcommunity.com/app/346110/discussions/10/523890046879200230/

    http://www.reddit.com/r/playark/comments/3bcctv/gauging_interest_in_an_event_server_that_gets/
     
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    Last edited: Jun 28, 2015
  2. JDogg

    JDogg Member

    Is your intent is to cannibalize the existing server? Why not just start over with the one that is already there? Fragmenting the community doesn't make much sense to me this morning.
     
  3. Dark Exile

    Dark Exile Member

    honestly knowing some people around here this will only end badly, or with very very few people.

    Also removing things like flyers just makes mat farming harder, they are terrible for base attacks now, besides, there isn't a wall or base i couldn't flatten in a day with any other dino thats actually good at breaking things.

    Not against the concept, but lol........... yeah.

    Honestly i would get everyone to help build a large base in the centre of the map and have battles for control of it every week or something, makes more sense, and no ones going to get butthurt when there stuff gets wrecked because theyre not on as often as people like me.

    And as Jdogg said, fragmentation, all in all not bothered either way, just my input.
     
  4. Daphonic

    Daphonic Gentleman Viking Grand Elder Elder

    We are looking at an Event Server. Also Matt Farming is NOT hard at all. with the settings, we put on test server. you can almost get 40 wood from most trees. We are not looking to make the Server Last long, we figure it might be up 1-2 weeks, maybe 3.

    I'm also going to start Advertising for this server if we do it. We got the whitelist working last night, I'ts just a pain in the arse. We want to leave the normal server we have as is, so peoples work, and bases stay in tact.

    I'm looking to just do events wit it. We are jacking up Dino Taming, and Harvesting off materials by 3x. So if osmeones Dino dies, it's not going to be hard to replace. It will be a Rush to See who kills Broadmother first, and best base. After that, We will come up with new Events.

    I'm looking for someway to bring new people into the Server, and Community, I don't want to advertise for our Normal Server, till we have everything 100%, This way, our Community can get the full PVP experience, and not bother people who are PVE.
     
  5. JDogg

    JDogg Member

    My concern is self-inflicted injuries. I don't understand what is driving the need for a 2nd server.

    Why can't we stay focused?

    Here are my suggestions:
    1. Don't continue to drive wedges into the community. Another server is a wedge.
    2. If folks want more PvP then add more:
      • Make any player made structures above Latitude 50 open for PvP
      • Declare that all peaks, caves, and oceans to be open for PvP
      • Make all yellow and red supply drops open for PvP
    3. Just keep in mind this is not a well design game for pvp. Set up a rust server if the community really wants pvp.
     
  6. Daphonic

    Daphonic Gentleman Viking Grand Elder Elder

    I understand were you're coming from, at the rate the normal server is going, its going to stay at 10 players max at any given time. From talking to people pushing that Server anymore will wedge the player base as is. Right now the people who are playing at the Server are mostly the PVE crew. Bunch of people have already moved onto other games.

    Now that we can get whitelist going, I'd like to start Advertising our servers. 1 Where PVE players can go, and have some Rules, and have a little bit of pvp. and a very Hard Server with PvP.

    How is this game not well Designed for PvP? This game should be played as 100% pvp Tribes vs tribes.

    I'd like to start getting some new blood onto our servers, but the majority of ARK fan base, is 100% PvP, that will not work well on our normal server, and cause problems. I want to grow both aspects of the game. With @Wykk help and maybe gain a few more admins, We can grow both decent size.
     
  7. JDogg

    JDogg Member

    The day this game became available there was a population of players who were only going to play it for a week or two before they moved on to other games. You were never going to keep those players interested in this game. As soon as another new game came out they were going to move on no matter what.

    We have done a number of things since this game launched that drove players away from the server we have. Starting with 2 servers, falling back to 1 server, having confusing rules that the game cannot enforce, doing a server wipe a week in, drama over unenforceable rules, etc. This would all be fine if the game was something like Battlefield 4 with 40 minute matches. But this is a game where people have spend hundreds of hours. And you're going into the server thinking it's just a temporary server? It doesn't sound like there is a real solid plan here that will grow any community around this game. We need a stable server that is well maintained more than anything.

    I don't think you are appreciating that you are going to gut your existing server by putting up that 2nd server. I suggest you just shut down the server that is up right now, create the new server and call it a day. Because right now it's a waste of time to log into it anymore as it will never become an active server. Don't try to be all things to all people because you're going to end up letting them all down.

    Because the rest of the game was not written with PvP in mind. They are focused on delivering a biodiversity in the dinosaurs. Tribes are mostly for community ownership and player recognition. The rest of the game is a PvP mess. It takes little time and resources to knock a base down that took hours or days to build. The netcode of the game is a mess for serious PvP. Too much rubber banding. The weapons and armor are not balanced for PvP. The dino AI allows dino's to be easily kited to their deaths in oceans. It's too easy to offline raid. Server cannot force a minimum graphics settings, allowing players to turn down graphics to a point where almost all the soft cover is gone. It goes on and on. Now take a hard hard look at what Rust looks like these days. That is a game that is taking on PvP from the ground up and everything they are doing is designed to give players a richer PvP game experience. You're going to need to be able to write mods to the game in order to fix the issues with ARK for PvP. You already talk about disabling the flying mount saddles. You're going to need to consider removing C4, rocket launchers, grenades, etc. as well.

    I don't think you can do both. Folks like me want a hard PvE environment and don't mind PvP if it's balanced, competitive, and not just a pointless deathmatch. The current server is too easy. Now you are talking about making another server that is hard PvE and unmoderated PvP. Why should I continue to log in to a server that feels like is being left for dead?
     
    Last edited: Jun 27, 2015
  8. DarkEmissary

    DarkEmissary Member

    I mean this coud be fun to try out,see how things go,what woud it hurt?
    O tink if you get lik 4-5 teams whit lik 5 ppl at least,it woud be fun to try.
    If you do what you set setting to 2 on the things,we where testing yesterday.
    So i woud do sing up for it :)
     
  9. Daphonic

    Daphonic Gentleman Viking Grand Elder Elder

    jdogg does have some good points, But the problem is, getting new people to play period. So many servers 800+ i think now, I got no bites on reddit or steam today. We just won't have enough for a 2nd server.
     

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